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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Aster Dibaba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aster Dibaba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In many of the countries around the world,where Democracy has not been strong,Christians don&#039;t participate that much.For that matter,very few countries even have elections. I am one of those new immigrant that got to vote ,for the first time at the age of 43.I still have a very new feelings every time I get to vote ( did for 19 years)It is a privilege to experience. 

Yes ,if Christians really obey,the teachings of our Lord,a lot of our concerns we brought up would sound very different.I believe,the Lord will not call anyone of  His followers,without preparing them for that task.Long before a person decides to be involved,he or she probably ,known or unknown to them, have gone through His schools of preparation.When the Lord needs that individual,they will be tapped in the heart,and they better answer,because it would be that familiar tap, that is known to him/to her for a long time. It is much more difficult ,to live the Christian faith ,in the secular place than to talk among Christian friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In many of the countries around the world,where Democracy has not been strong,Christians don&#8217;t participate that much.For that matter,very few countries even have elections. I am one of those new immigrant that got to vote ,for the first time at the age of 43.I still have a very new feelings every time I get to vote ( did for 19 years)It is a privilege to experience. </p>
<p>Yes ,if Christians really obey,the teachings of our Lord,a lot of our concerns we brought up would sound very different.I believe,the Lord will not call anyone of  His followers,without preparing them for that task.Long before a person decides to be involved,he or she probably ,known or unknown to them, have gone through His schools of preparation.When the Lord needs that individual,they will be tapped in the heart,and they better answer,because it would be that familiar tap, that is known to him/to her for a long time. It is much more difficult ,to live the Christian faith ,in the secular place than to talk among Christian friends.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Marty Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for some sanity, Philip; a pleasure to read, as always.
Blessings, Marty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for some sanity, Philip; a pleasure to read, as always.<br />
Blessings, Marty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 17:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  Bishop Romero is another who comes to mind.  What I find interesting about him is he was &quot;temperementally conservative&quot; as Andrew Sullivan would put it.  But the suffering of his people necessitated a stand against his government on issues of poverty which ended in his murder.  Neither the Vatican nor the Reagan administration provided much support to Romero in his cause.

I think there are two big areas for Christians to engage with:  The economic suffering that so many are experiencing right now.  And the general toxicity and nastiness in our socio-cultural divide.  Too often Chritianity gets coopted into the destructive narratives which cause these problems rather than offering a genuine alternative to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  Bishop Romero is another who comes to mind.  What I find interesting about him is he was &#8220;temperementally conservative&#8221; as Andrew Sullivan would put it.  But the suffering of his people necessitated a stand against his government on issues of poverty which ended in his murder.  Neither the Vatican nor the Reagan administration provided much support to Romero in his cause.</p>
<p>I think there are two big areas for Christians to engage with:  The economic suffering that so many are experiencing right now.  And the general toxicity and nastiness in our socio-cultural divide.  Too often Chritianity gets coopted into the destructive narratives which cause these problems rather than offering a genuine alternative to them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Bill Fleming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Fleming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 09:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved reading this Philip. I realise the political context in the immediate sense is North American but how it reasonates with the history of Northern Ireland. In this part of the world it took time for the church to grasp its calling and role and even then its response often was expressed in an un-even manner.

Greg what a great response and ending to your thoughts! God bless you heaps indeed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved reading this Philip. I realise the political context in the immediate sense is North American but how it reasonates with the history of Northern Ireland. In this part of the world it took time for the church to grasp its calling and role and even then its response often was expressed in an un-even manner.</p>
<p>Greg what a great response and ending to your thoughts! God bless you heaps indeed!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Douglas Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 08:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Yancey
I do not understand the implications of what you are talking about. Are we supposed to abandon politics? This does not make sense to me. It seems to me that Foucult or Marx would want to say everything we do is informed in some way or form by politics, by power; I do not wish to be unvoiced in this democracy. Please advise and correct my misunderstanding. Thanks very much, Doug.


&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;m working on a book that will say more.  Meantime, I&#039;d recommend Niebuhr, Volf, and Hunter for anyone seriously interested in this area.
Philip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Yancey<br />
I do not understand the implications of what you are talking about. Are we supposed to abandon politics? This does not make sense to me. It seems to me that Foucult or Marx would want to say everything we do is informed in some way or form by politics, by power; I do not wish to be unvoiced in this democracy. Please advise and correct my misunderstanding. Thanks very much, Doug.</p>
<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m working on a book that will say more.  Meantime, I&#8217;d recommend Niebuhr, Volf, and Hunter for anyone seriously interested in this area.<br />
Philip</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Greg Denholm (Adelaide, Australia)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Denholm (Adelaide, Australia)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 05:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot, Philip, for this robust, well-researched and thought-provoking article. I am very much in agreement with you.

In &lt;I&gt;A Long Obedience in the Same Direction&lt;/I&gt;, Eugene Peterson writes: &quot;A person has to be thoroughly disgusted with the way things are to find the motivation to set out on the Christian way. As long as we think the next election might eliminate crime or another scientific breakthrough might save the environment or another pay raise might push us over the edge of anxiety into a life of tranquillity, we are not likely to risk the arduous uncertainties of the life of faith. A person has to get fed up with the ways of the world before he, before she, acquires an appetite for the world of grace.&quot;

For me, too many of us Christians don&#039;t seem to understand the extent of the world&#039;s predicament: we actually think that a new policy or a new government can address society&#039;s ills. In point of fact, our only hope is Jesus, whose way contrasts starkly with the way of politics. How can so many of us not see the differences? They are black and white. Politics works on the basis of coercive power: whoever is bigger, stronger and more threatening wins. Jesus, on the other hand, is God&#039;s gift of grace to weak, fallen, helpless sinners. He who is King of kings and Lord of lords willingly endured the torment and shame of the cross when he could have avoided doing so simply by wielding power that is rightfully his to wield. Instead he meekly allowed evil men to impose their will upon him - and all for selfless love. Proud politicians (and, it has to be said, religious types too) routinely wear a veneer of righteousness to conceal the darkness within, but Jesus - who was (and is) spotless through and through - took on our shame as his own, becoming sin for us. The differences between politics and the way of Christ are many - I could go on and on. Why, oh why, oh WHY have so many of us apparently not understood that Jesus is NOT a political Messiah, and that his way - the kingdom way - is radically different from the way of worldly power and politics? They are diametrically opposed; neither of them comes to fruition via the other.

If more Christians were more obedient to Christ in living out the Christian way and less concerned with trying to impose Christianity on the world via the political system (a complete misnomer), the issues you mention, Philip - health care for the poor, protecting widows and orphans, the deaths of children in their millions due to malnutrition - would be, at the very least, on a scale vastly smaller than their current epic proportions. These are problems for which only Jesus is the solution, and it seems he&#039;s not going to implement that solution without us, his body on earth. It all starts in prayer...

God bless you heaps, Philip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot, Philip, for this robust, well-researched and thought-provoking article. I am very much in agreement with you.</p>
<p>In <i>A Long Obedience in the Same Direction</i>, Eugene Peterson writes: &#8220;A person has to be thoroughly disgusted with the way things are to find the motivation to set out on the Christian way. As long as we think the next election might eliminate crime or another scientific breakthrough might save the environment or another pay raise might push us over the edge of anxiety into a life of tranquillity, we are not likely to risk the arduous uncertainties of the life of faith. A person has to get fed up with the ways of the world before he, before she, acquires an appetite for the world of grace.&#8221;</p>
<p>For me, too many of us Christians don&#8217;t seem to understand the extent of the world&#8217;s predicament: we actually think that a new policy or a new government can address society&#8217;s ills. In point of fact, our only hope is Jesus, whose way contrasts starkly with the way of politics. How can so many of us not see the differences? They are black and white. Politics works on the basis of coercive power: whoever is bigger, stronger and more threatening wins. Jesus, on the other hand, is God&#8217;s gift of grace to weak, fallen, helpless sinners. He who is King of kings and Lord of lords willingly endured the torment and shame of the cross when he could have avoided doing so simply by wielding power that is rightfully his to wield. Instead he meekly allowed evil men to impose their will upon him &#8211; and all for selfless love. Proud politicians (and, it has to be said, religious types too) routinely wear a veneer of righteousness to conceal the darkness within, but Jesus &#8211; who was (and is) spotless through and through &#8211; took on our shame as his own, becoming sin for us. The differences between politics and the way of Christ are many &#8211; I could go on and on. Why, oh why, oh WHY have so many of us apparently not understood that Jesus is NOT a political Messiah, and that his way &#8211; the kingdom way &#8211; is radically different from the way of worldly power and politics? They are diametrically opposed; neither of them comes to fruition via the other.</p>
<p>If more Christians were more obedient to Christ in living out the Christian way and less concerned with trying to impose Christianity on the world via the political system (a complete misnomer), the issues you mention, Philip &#8211; health care for the poor, protecting widows and orphans, the deaths of children in their millions due to malnutrition &#8211; would be, at the very least, on a scale vastly smaller than their current epic proportions. These are problems for which only Jesus is the solution, and it seems he&#8217;s not going to implement that solution without us, his body on earth. It all starts in prayer&#8230;</p>
<p>God bless you heaps, Philip.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Weston Eden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weston Eden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Philip your thoughtful remarks. I too am very weary of the political atmosphere. Yet, what is more troubling to me is the belief by many Christians that the government is ultimately responsible for the moral fiber of our nation, rather than the people. As Christians, do we not have a greater duty and responsibility to morality, social justice, our environment, etc., than those of our fellow man who do not know Jesus? I believe these most uncertain times are a continuing signals to Christians to be salt and light directly, to model what we say we believe, and not waste too much time and emotional energy trying elect someone else to do it for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Philip your thoughtful remarks. I too am very weary of the political atmosphere. Yet, what is more troubling to me is the belief by many Christians that the government is ultimately responsible for the moral fiber of our nation, rather than the people. As Christians, do we not have a greater duty and responsibility to morality, social justice, our environment, etc., than those of our fellow man who do not know Jesus? I believe these most uncertain times are a continuing signals to Christians to be salt and light directly, to model what we say we believe, and not waste too much time and emotional energy trying elect someone else to do it for us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Anthony Grubb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Grubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2012 04:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More refreshing deep analysis and authenticity, thank you for sifting through hundreds (and thousands) of years of history to find cogent illustrations to elucidate us with the lessons these examples teach you.  

George Bernard Shaw said, &quot;We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.&quot;  While this is cute (and those he describes fill the news headlines with their lack of discernment), his statement is also disingenious.  Those who make the obvious blunders may learn very little, many cooler heads daily bear in mind the lessons of history as they strive to choose wiser paths.  Unfortunately, in hot-button socio-political arenas, many of us with busy lives find ourselves unable to keep up with the mirade of current and historical perspectives (can we say &quot;information overload&quot;?), and so we take the party line, vote a straight ticket, and depend overly on others to help us identify the good guys and choose our battles.  At the same time, in our self-indulgence, we may be more skilled in choosing our favorite fast food joint or barista than our political or moral allegiances.  We pay our taxes, we go to church, we get our marching orders.  &quot;Ours is not to question why, ours is but to do or die.&quot;  I&#039;m reminded of the &quot;Galaxy Quest&quot; TV sci-fi captain awaking from a hangover to a real war briefing for a real battle taking place on the other side of the galaxy--we just want the basics, &quot;I got most of it. Sarris is the bad guy?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More refreshing deep analysis and authenticity, thank you for sifting through hundreds (and thousands) of years of history to find cogent illustrations to elucidate us with the lessons these examples teach you.  </p>
<p>George Bernard Shaw said, &#8220;We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.&#8221;  While this is cute (and those he describes fill the news headlines with their lack of discernment), his statement is also disingenious.  Those who make the obvious blunders may learn very little, many cooler heads daily bear in mind the lessons of history as they strive to choose wiser paths.  Unfortunately, in hot-button socio-political arenas, many of us with busy lives find ourselves unable to keep up with the mirade of current and historical perspectives (can we say &#8220;information overload&#8221;?), and so we take the party line, vote a straight ticket, and depend overly on others to help us identify the good guys and choose our battles.  At the same time, in our self-indulgence, we may be more skilled in choosing our favorite fast food joint or barista than our political or moral allegiances.  We pay our taxes, we go to church, we get our marching orders.  &#8220;Ours is not to question why, ours is but to do or die.&#8221;  I&#8217;m reminded of the &#8220;Galaxy Quest&#8221; TV sci-fi captain awaking from a hangover to a real war briefing for a real battle taking place on the other side of the galaxy&#8211;we just want the basics, &#8220;I got most of it. Sarris is the bad guy?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Bobbe Brooks-Fischle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobbe Brooks-Fischle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, yes, yes. Philip, thank you for this hard-hitting and informative post! I&#039;ve recently been convicted that blogging should contain much more relevant substance for these difficult times. Thank you AND thank you for writing the books. Last hour, I recommended Soul Survivor to someone deeply hurt by the church...
Much gratitude from us!! Bobbe and John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, yes, yes. Philip, thank you for this hard-hitting and informative post! I&#8217;ve recently been convicted that blogging should contain much more relevant substance for these difficult times. Thank you AND thank you for writing the books. Last hour, I recommended Soul Survivor to someone deeply hurt by the church&#8230;<br />
Much gratitude from us!! Bobbe and John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Election-Year Musings: Part One by Tony Lin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Lin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo! Well said. One minor correction Mr. Yancey. Though I think Peter Berger would agree that religion has &quot;world shaking&quot; functions I believe his exact term was &quot;World Construction&quot; and &quot;World Maintenance&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Thank you for this.  When I googled &quot;Peter Berger World Shaking&quot; I got a variety of quotes and references.  You&#039;re right about world-construction being in &lt;em&gt;Sacred Canopy&lt;/em&gt;, though he uses &quot;world-shaking&quot; and &quot;world-maintaining&quot; on page 100 of my edition.  I wonder if he changed terminology along the way.
Philip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo! Well said. One minor correction Mr. Yancey. Though I think Peter Berger would agree that religion has &#8220;world shaking&#8221; functions I believe his exact term was &#8220;World Construction&#8221; and &#8220;World Maintenance&#8221;</p>
<blockquote><p>Thank you for this.  When I googled &#8220;Peter Berger World Shaking&#8221; I got a variety of quotes and references.  You&#8217;re right about world-construction being in <em>Sacred Canopy</em>, though he uses &#8220;world-shaking&#8221; and &#8220;world-maintaining&#8221; on page 100 of my edition.  I wonder if he changed terminology along the way.<br />
Philip</p></blockquote>
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